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SUZUKI
CAVALCADE OWNERS GROUP NEWSLETTER
Jay Johnson, Editor
2005:
CADE RAID EAST “RIDE THE TAIL OF THE DRAGON” 2005:
CADE RAID WEST “ Time
is closing in on the twin Cade Raids coming up in early September. Pick the
rally you want to enjoy and contact the organizers for details including the
daily ride schedules and registration information. For
the East Coast Cade Raid you need to contact Larry Dilldine: Grubfodder@aol.com For the West Coast Cade Raid you need to
contact Jay Johnson: jay@treefarmtapes.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tentative Schedule: For
the Friday, September
9th: Meet
and greet, ride to supper Sat, 10th Taming
the Dragon, lunch and ride Sunday, 11th Site
seeing, shopping, supper ride to Pigeon Forge Monday Ride
to Tuesday 13th,
Ride to Chimney Rock, supper at the Mountain State Fair, in
Wednesday Ride
to Barters Theater, for Thursday, 15th,
Ride from Friday, Ride
from Saturday, 17th, Ride
the Sunday goodbyes
an depart for home If you can't make the whole tour,
join us anywhere along the way! Web sites of interest MOTEL listings www.hometown.aol.com/grubfodder/myhomepage On Wednesday we will
have a chase vehicle following us north. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (WEATHER & LOCAL ROAD CONDITIONS
MAY ALTER THIS SCHEDULE.) Monday ~ September 12th Cade Raid Registration at An easy day … recover from the ride to Optional side trip to 1959 Earthquake Site
& Virginia City, Evening
BBQ Tuesday ~ September 13th Tour Evening Workshop Wednesday ~ September 14th Tour Evening Workshop Thursday ~ September 15th Ride to Friday ~ September 16th Ride both sides of the Grand Tetons, visit Farewell Dinner ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you are planning a ride,
rally, or other motorcycle event of interest to the membership of
the Suzuki Cavalcade Owners Group, send the information to jay@treefarmtapes.com
and it will be posted in the next issue of this newsletter. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ TRIPS AND TIPS ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ THE
CHROME SHOP While going thru the
"Links" part of the "SuzukiCavalcade" site I found a vendor
that I am familiar with. The Chrome Shop. They are located here in CLERVIEWSHIELDS Has
anyone ever ordered a windshield from ClerViewShields in Hey,
KennG......Willie here...You will be getting the BEST windshield available, in
my opinion....I've had one of these (with 3" added width to each side, no
additional height...although he will add height also if you want it) on my 'Cade
since 1990, got it when they were in (I think) Golden, Co.,......It is still
absolutely clear with no swirl marks, no hazing, but shows dinks from stone
impacts from 136K miles of use....I was so impressed with this shield (compared
to the stock Suzuki (coated) shield and also compared to other aftermarket
shields) that I bought another for my '89 Gold Wing, and it was on that bike
when I sold it last year with 154K miles and was in just as good
condition....crystal-clear and cleans up beautifully. One thing, though: If you
get one of these shields, I recommend that you mask-off the lower portion
similar to the stock shield and paint the edges (I used black spray paint) and
lower forward-facing area.....If not, when the shield is mounted, you'll see
(through the shield) the leading edge of the dash upper panel...this is a sharp
plastic edge and looks unfinished when viewed from the front thru the
shield...The black surface on the stock shield conceals this...ALSO. and more
importantly, the edge (thickness) of the shield nearest the headlight, when
mounted, will pick up the light from the headlight and, acting like
fiber-optics, transmit that light thru the shield and cause the edge all around
the shield to "glow" a wonderful white edging....First time I rode at
night after installing this shield I couldn't figure what was going on...was
very distracting to me, kinda like those chrome door-edge strips I see some guys
put on their windshields...(If I can't see through it, it doesn't belong
there...Know what I mean ~Willie "Wonka" Kohlenberger windshield treatment HEY
ALL. I went to the car store yesterday to get wax for the 4-wheeler and stumbled
onto something. Meguiar's makes a product called "Plastx Clear Plastic
Cleaner and Polish". FORK
BRACE DISCUSSION I had a very slow speed
wobble and a wobble when changing lanes but could hold it with a single hand.
At 55 mph I was not able to take the hands off the handlebars at all. Took
the Forks off and had them reworked. It still had a wobble but not as bad.
Still could use any dual hands off riding. Replaced the tires and reworked
the bearings (grease etc). That helped till I reached about 85-90
mph. The wobble came back as a slow lane sweeping wobble. Bought
the super brace and the steering felt a lot smoother and the wobbles went away.
Have taken the bike up to about 130 mph and still had no wobble. Backed
off to highway speed and the bike was stable and could be ridden without the
hands on the handlebars. I do not recommend this high speed test as a
norm. Did a 4000 mile trip and the ride was excellent. Took the old
brace to airframe shop and had a friend dye pent the thing. Found many
hairline stress cracks that I could not see with the eye before. Many of
the cracks were around the mounting holes. I'm very please with the new
brace and after the test...I feel I might have found the problem toooooooo late.
That is just my 2-cents...you be your own judge. ~Mac, I had a very slow speed wobble and
a wobble when changing lanes. Bought the super brace and the steering felt a lot
smoother and the wobbles went away. ~Red Last father's day I went down when the
front brace broke on my ‘86 and was totaled. 6 ribs broke on me and a bunch of
bruising but I’m ok now. I bought mine back from insurance and gathered
all the parts and am starting to rebuild. But, I bought the ‘88 to ride in the
meantime. Get another and get back
on. I'm glad I did it. ~Michael Food for thought: Ambulance: $475.80 ~
Emergency room: $208.00 ~ Hospital room, 7 day, $8597.00 ~ Emergency Dept:
$1501.00 ~ Lab, Radiology: $2449.00 ~ C A T Scan: $3389.00 ~ Misc. drugs, etc:
$2914.00 ~ More Radiology: $275.00 ~ Even more Radio: $896.00 ~ Lost work time: $xx,xxx.xx
~ Lost Cade: $3500.00 Lucky me, I had insurance
and sick days, but the total is a whole lot more than Tracy's brace at $75.00,
In fact, the wonderful PA State troopers were happy to give me a ticket for not
having my bike under control. Cost? 3 points and $80.00! Pain
felt with 6 broken ribs----- indescribable! As I understand it, Suzuki
changed that brace 4 times over the life of the Cade. ~Michael The
cause of the crash was the failure of the fork brace? I was thinking of getting
the fork brace to improve performance. However, if this is a failure mechanism,
should I replace this due to safety concerns? Thanks ~Bill I
visited Mike after his mishap and can attest to the pain he was in. So I can
agree with him the cost of Michael, this is a
serious issue indeed. You have suggested a mechanical failure which caused
you to fall off. Do you still have the broken brace? The reason I
ask is that a metallurgist can examine the brace and tell a lot about why it
failed. For instance, if it had a crack that propagated slowly, then there
will be more oxidation on the crack face where the failure originated, with
steadily less along the crack propagation plane and little or no oxidation where
the material failed suddenly just before the crash. We can also determine
why a crack started by doing some materials tests. The rocket science
business uses these techniques often. If you still have the brace, I will
gladly supply the metallurgy expertise, and write up a report for the group and
Suzuki on what happened. Also keep in mind
that guys have reported a wobbly front end, especially from carrying a heavy
load too far aft. I have to watch this when I am hauling our two backpacks
on the trailer hitch platform I built. Is there any way you could have had
a front end wobble which caused the crash, which broke the brace? ~Spike Bill,
I didn't even think my bike needed a brace, but I bought one on a whim based on
everything > written here last year. When I took it off, the original looked
flawless, still does. I installed it anyway. All I can say is WHAT A
DIFFERENCE!! The bike no longer feels squirrelly when I hit a bump or cross a
line during a lane change, and it feels much more stable on curves at speed.
Well worth the money. ~Ed I
have to say that I have an 87 and replaced the brace also because of the talk on
the group. My original was flawless
also. I notice no difference with
the new brace. I'm not saying
"don't get one" because I do like the idea of having a beefier brace
but don't be disappointed if you don't feel a difference after changing it.
~Rick Well,
I wasn't going to reply to the original message from Rick because I felt it
would jinx me, but I just turned 121,000 miles with the original brace and have
not had a bit of problem with it. I have ridden Deals Gap many times and been on
a lot of twisty roads and curves. Perhaps
I don't know what a good riding motorcycle should be like in the turns as I have
only ridden the Cavalcade for the last 18 years and perhaps the new brace would
open my eyes so to speak. But the brace that came with MY motorcycle is fine as
far as I can tell and hopefully will take me many more miles. Thanks Rick for
expressing the other opinion. ~Tom (1986 LXE in Tom,
I wish that you were a little closer to me so you could do a "before and
after" test. They just seem to make the bike feel more solid. On the low
mileage Cade (I doubt anything is worn in the forks) it made a world of
difference. The Cade with the sidecar needs a steering damper with the stock
brace but not so with the SuperBrace. I might note that Jim,
I'm interested in how the brace affected handling on a 3-wheel application.
Sounds like it made quite a difference, if you were able to do away with the
dampener! I still haven't gotten a new brace for the trike yet - most of the
improvement I felt on the bike was during curves & leaning, which of course
you don't do on a 3-wheeler. Been wondering if it was needed or not. However,
I recently rebuilt the forks of the trike, using Just
a few words about fork braces and such... As I have stated many times before, a
machined billet brace is not a cure-all for ill front end handling. And, for
some riders its effect will be minimal and they might not even notice a
difference before and after. That's not a bad thing. There are lots of riders
that can't tell you much about the way their bike handles. Unless it's just
shaking all over the place or pulling severely or doing something really weird
they just don't notice. On
the other hand I've ridden a lot of these bikes and I can tell you in about 2
minutes what's going on with the tires and forks and shocks, steering head
bearings, swing arm bearings etc. Some of us know what a bike should handle like
and when they ride one that doesn't feel right they know it immediately. If
you bolt on a machined brace and don't notice a difference that's okay. You
might also bolt on a set of top-notch Progressive shocks and put cartridge
emulators in the forks with Progressive springs and not know the difference
between these high end components and the worn out ones that you replaced.
Again, that's okay. The machined fork brace, however, performs a much more
important function. The
stock brace is a die cast piece of s**t that is made from a low grade zinc alloy
junk material. In my opinion, it doesn't deserve the label of fork brace at all
but instead should be called a paperweight. It's not worth the dynamite it would
take to blow it up. Sorry, but that's just the truth. Hopefully
you'll never know what a piece of crap it is when you're in a 70 MPH off-camber
curve getting onto the interstate with your bags loaded and momma on the back
and the damn thing breaks and the front end starts wallering around like a pig
in slop and the bike spits your asses off and you bounce and flop and roll to a
stop 100 feet away and hopefully walk away from it. Anyway, I’m sorry for the
length and the language. There are just some things I feel strongly about. ~ Guys
this is important as all get out: if
you have a fork brace that breaks, by all means KEEP IT and have a metallurgist
look at it. They can tell us a lot
about why and how it happened, specifically: over a number of years or in a day. If
we find it takes years and there are visible cracks before failure, then we all
need to inspect the braces regularly. If
we find one that fractured in a day with no warning cracks, then we all know
what has to happen: every fork brace must be replaced before the bike is safe to
ride. Does
anyone have a failed fork brace? Email me: spike66@comcast.net
~Spike Spike,
I have an ‘86 Cade with the thicker brace on it, and after I got it, the first
thing I did was to check the fork brace and sure enough it's cracked. If you
want it, send me your address and I’ll send it to you. If it can keep only one
person from getting hurt its yours ~Dan in PA YES
please do send that. I will inspect and report back to the group on where the
crack is located, how it is propagating and whatever other info we can take off
of that crack. I have access to a materials lab and a team of experts. Has
anyone else had an actual brace failure? We
can add that to the VIN list. Since
it is a zinc alloy, I am now wondering if corrosion stress could be a factor: a
small crack starts, rainy spring day, left over road salt from the winter sprays
up, gets in the crack, zinc alloys are very unforgiving of even a little
corrosion stress, crack propagates. ~Spike, ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I have seen a lot lately about turning the
cornering lights into driving lights. Just wondering, with the trouble I and
others have had with the regulator/rectifier and the stator, would the added
strain of full time running lights, either using the ones there or putting two
55 watt bulbs, put a strain on the charging system? Cause problems sooner than
otherwise? ~Hitekrednek The
Cade system, like may bike systems, is a full-on all the time deal for the
stator. In other words, the stator is under full load all of the time. The
regulator decides how much juice goes to the battery/system and how much is
dumped to ground to maintain the required voltage. Well, actually, digital
voltmeters are quite accurate and there's no need whatsoever to measure amperage
draw on an ongoing basis, only system voltage at the battery. Regardless of how
many lights you have, the only thing that matters is that the battery is
receiving enough voltage to remain properly charged. Sure, you can measure
amperage draw of the system for informational purposes but it tells you nothing
running down the road. Unlike old generator
systems where the amp gauge would show whether the current was going
to or from the battery, a voltmeter gives you the current state of charge of the
battery which is what's important. If you see the voltage dropping, you know to
turn off some lights as either the stator or the regulator, or both has gone
south. That's all that's really important. In some rare cases, the voltage will
shoot up past 15 volts and that also indicates a problem with the SCRs in the
regulator and you better turn it off before you start to burn something up. An
ammeter wouldn't tell you that. If you want to run a lot
lights, you need to match the output of the stator to the load. You can measure
the load with an ammeter or simply add it up and see if the stator has enough
power (stock Cade is 500 watts). If you exceed that, then you can choose a high
output rewind from Willies. ~ HEADLIGHT MODULATOR I have a problem with my
headlight modulator. The OK monitor stays on. However, I’ve not had any
problem with the monitor having to flash. I installed it before Branson last
year and it’s not really a problem with over 12k miles. It works well. I’ve
had an idea in my head that I was going to try. I want to add 2 6 ohm (50watt)
resistors between the low beam lead and ground. It may fool the sensor in the
monitor. What do you think Well, each resistor is
going to soak up 37.5 watts at 15 volts so you're adding a 75 watt load to the
system. Will that cause the headlight monitor to go out? Maybe! The problem (I think) is
that the modulator on-time isn't sufficient to draw enough amperage to satisfy
the okay monitor. If we look at it as a RMS current, then we would have to
increase the total current so that the RMS current that the okay monitor sees is
enough. That's assuming that the switching speed of the modulator is such that
the monitor won't still see the "dips" between the on-off cycles and
still show a headlight out condition. If you put the resistors
ahead of the modulator, then that might allow the monitor to see current even
during the dips of the modulator. The downside to that is you're adding raw load
without any benefit except heat. Maybe you could use the added amperage to power
some additional lights (like driving lights) instead of just burning it up
as heat in the resistors. That might accomplish the same goal and give you a
little extra light. They won't be modulated, but as long as the main bulb is I
dunno that it will matter. Any lights that you
power ahead of the modulator will go through a less pronounced flickering
because of the up and down current draw of the main bulb. You will need to make
sure you don't overdo it as the diodes in the monitor are only rated at 5 amps
and there's a 10 amp fuse in that circuit and you may have to bump that to get
it carry the load. So, you may be burning up the headlight diode in the monitor
before you pop a fuse. An alternative might be
to disable the headlight monitor by cutting the wire that goes from the monitor
box to the display. You will have to experiment a little but you might be able
to just cut one wire and have the headlight-out symbol go out. If you unplug the
brown connector from the monitor box that should disable all of the monitoring
functions. By using a bit of wire and making connection with only one
terminal at a time between the monitor box and the mating plug, you might be
able to isolate the headlight wire and then simply cut it. The downside of that, of
course, is the loss of “headlight out” indication. ~ Speakers I
bought some new speakers at Wal-Mart a while back and the low end is just a
rumble. The mid range and highs are very good. Can't even
understand
people talking if they have a low voice and bass on music is just garbled. I
have tried switching the polarity, just in case I had hooked them up wrong, but
that did not help. Any ideas? ~Mike Speaker
quality has something to do with it. Also, since the speakers are mounted
free-air, they are not going to handle a lot of bass. You have to realize that a
4" speaker doesn't reproduce low frequencies very well anyway and since you
can't really mount them in a sealed enclosure (which helps a small speaker
improve tremendously with low frequencies) then they are going to shake and
rattle trying to reproduce low frequencies. I replaced my old
Original speakers last fall due to the fact that they are almost 20 years old
with Pioneer 3 1/2" 4ohm 120W and can finally drive them at a level I
can hear at 70mph. The original are 4ohm 12W (typed on the back). If you’re
trying to replace them look for a speaker that can produce the highest db
(decibel) level at 1 watt. i.e.: From Crutchfield: If you plan to
drive your speakers with a low-powered factory receiver, you need
highly-efficient speakers. Check out the speaker sensitivity to find the most
efficient speakers for your vehicle. (For instance, a speaker rated 3 dB higher
than another will require half as much power to produce the same output.)
~Scott Well
I would like to make a suggestion about your speaker and or audio needs. I have
three teenage sons who have dialed in their rides and have been into quality
stereo systems for quite a while now. My youngest son is very good at this sort
of thing and has suggested that you should go to >>> www.etronics.com
<<< For the best pricing and selection!! 4.0
inch speakers: http://www.etronics.com/listproducts.asp?catid=351&store= Main
Speaker Link: http://www.etronics.com/mysearchcat.asp?catid=350&store= ==================================================================== For
improved sound, try this; go to your friendly neighborhood plastics dealer
and get 2 pictures of 12" X 12" Kydex 1/16" or 3/32" thick.
You will then need an old speaker (same size and shape as new), a small wiring
grommet, a good pair of gloves, and a large cookie sheet. Pre-heat your oven to
150 deg. and put Kydex on upside down cookie sheet in oven until soft (about
15-20 minutes). Then remove and loosely mold over back of speaker. Mold
tightly around mounting areas. Let it cool. You can then trim excess, drill wire
access hole, mount grommet, and drill mounting holes to match speaker. I suggest
you use small washers to re-enforce mounting holes. I did this on my FRONT
END WOBBLE I
just replaced my front tire. Still have a slight vibration between 25-35 mph.
More of a wobble!! I
need to purchase front fork brace anyway. Don’t know which I if need new, or
old. ~Terryg If
it's an 86 LX, then it takes the early style brace. Everything else is a late
style. I
run Dunlops 491's elite 11with 40lb. in the front and 40lb. in the rear. I found
that if I run less than 40lb in the front it wobbles a little and the front end
is a little "squirrelly" I also have a Personally,
I ran my Dunlops 36 front and 40-42 rear. I never had any problem with any sort
of wobble unless I instigated it with a rap to the handlebars (I don't recommend
that practice). Towards the end of their life, the amount of wobble I could
introduce with a smack to the bars was rather unnerving. It didn't start as much
but quickly escalated to a potential tankslapper if not arrested.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Upstate 87
LXE 35,779 mi as of 7/23/05 ~
Avon Venom X tires this year ~ Honda Rotor Covers ~ Cade caliper covers ~ Front
fender rail ~ SS front & back brake lines ~ Hydraulic brake and clutch
switches ~ Chrome "S" reservoir covers ~ Braided clutch and brake
levers ~ Recovered black & blue seat, back rests, & head rest ~ Utopia
back rest ~ NOT corked (still dry) ~ Some extras to the successful bidder. ~
$4000 or BO ~ I also reserve the right to NOT accept too low an offer.
Kenz Hemi Blue Harley Cade…
asking $4000. Contact KennG kgdd@rochester.rr.com
OR (315) 781-2356. '87
LX for sale. Needs minor work, but is complete and ride-able. Has
most all factory options plus a few extras. Two tone gold. 58K
miles. Contact me for more info. Most of us know what the bike is
worth. $2500 is asking price, but for anyone thru here I'll take $2000.
"Jack Erekson" caderinnv@yahoo.com Also
I
need to sell my '86 Cade GT. It is a great motorcycle. It truly only has 23000
original miles on it and has been garaged since it was new. It has a couple
of minor scratches on it but is almost like show room quality. It runs excellent
and has no problems. If you know any one who is interested in a great bike
for a great price have them email me please! I need $3200.00 for it.
See the pictures of it under Photos/Glen's ~Glen gdearl@earthlink.net It's
with regret that I sell my Cade but I've put less than 3k miles in 2 yrs. It's a
shame that is just sitting in the shed. The bike is blue on blue and has the
silver lines as Jay's bike only single not double like his. ~ The bike has 57K
miles and everything works it's the GXE. Has no leaks and is ready to ride
anywhere. When I bought it I replaced the tires ( Cade for Heel & toe
shifter, driver back rest, trailer hitch, etc. Always garaged. Two helmets w/
intercom included, one XL, one medium and full bike storage cover. Everything
works except the CB. Will need new front tire soon, rear is in good shape.
Located in Nuther
1986
Suzuki cavalcade LXE 1400 v4 touring, blue on blue trophy winner with only
28,500 miles. And color matched hardtop camper. The LXE is in excellent
condition, garaged, adult owned, all maintenance records are available. This one
has it all…standard equipment includes: air seats, auto leveling, cruise
control, am/fm, cassette, 4 speaker surround, CB, intercom, full lowers with
vents, chrome light bar with cornering lamps, adjustable passenger backrest,
headrest and floorboards, passenger audio controls. Added accessories: chrome
luggage rack, chrome front fender rail, chrome saddle bag rails , chrome front
brake caliper and rotor covers, chrome clutch and brake levers, chrome side
stand, rider floorboards, chrome “progressive suspension” rear shocks,
“progressive suspension” front springs, chrome auxiliary brake lights (2),
“Hartco” lambskin seat covers, marker lights (6), chrome “Fiam” horns
(very loud), trailer hitch, “baker” windshield wings, trunk organizer,
cushion grips, drink holder, mud flap with cavalcade logo, handlebar bag, wide
angle spot mirrors, daytime running lights, cigarette lighter. This bike needs
nothing and is ready to ride anywhere. It has new tires and battery, current
After
much mental debate, I have decided to sell my Cavalcade. 1986 LXE, 24,900 miles,
Brown, Trailer Hitch (Installed at Americade, but never used). It has a few
other goodies, and some extra parts. Some of you will probably remember my bike
from Americade in 01 and 02. I
live in case anyone wants to come by for a look. The bike has been well cared
for, and is in great shape. I will email pictures and answer questions- cmonges@snet.net
Asking $4,000 Thanks! Cliff (and Paula) 1986 LX that is FOR SALE and no reasonable offer will be refused! The body parts are in great shape the seat has a small split in the seam wear the driver sits and the radio only gets one station. The motor runs very strong and burns no oil, it has 59, 000 miles on it and still looks very good, but I did have that problem with the two small negative wires, which seem to be good now! ~BIG BILL, email: live2ride@tmlp.com I have a beautiful 86LXE blue on blue for sale. No time to ride.
Only 36k. Just put new tires on it. There are no tears or dents on this bike.
Mint shape ready to ride.3500 dollars. You can reach me 603 256 8285 or tazmantimm@yahoo.com |
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